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Relish in it. It is the emotions and desires of humans and their ilk that most interests me. Out of them comes disaster and chaos, joy and glory. Without them, even creatures such as you are little more than intelligent beasts.

With them, you are remarkable.

I guess it's better than being cold and distant like a figure frozen in some painting...impervious, but detached. I suspect that's what real angels would be like.

The angels I know are... not quite that way. They are logical, and many of them care little for anyone save themselves, and YHVH. But they have a false type of love among them. Not for each other... but for Him. For that sake they are like frightened children, desperate to please, and forsaking all else save Him. Not knowing what it is that they are doing, they obediently cast aside all other existences in the thought that it will make Him happy.

Ah...I remember, Lucifel told me once what she thought of God. She said that she had turned her back to the heavens long ago and that lust was her only god...my heart is my flesh is my will. She told me she didn't believe in a God that didn't recognize her love...when you put a single being above all others. She stopped believing in God because he doesn't punish bad people and he doesn't help weak people. I can't say I understand it, but I thought it was fine as long as there was something that gave her joy.

I cannot claim to know the situation in your world. But if your God and mine are similar, I can tell you this.

Gods survive only by belief. Even if killed, a God will return as long as even one person holds faith in them. Their power, too, is fueled by it. This is why the Great Will seeks belief above all else.

But...

...at its core, therein lies a problem.

How can one believe in a God that will hold back from His people? Mankind is now billions strong. No matter what calamities occur, no one can claim to be "saved" by God. No one can claim to be punished by God.

But despite that, every time those calamities pass by, there are many who breath a sigh of relief. "Thank god!" they exclaim.

The truth is, that mankind was never intended to have its hands held. To be guided through life.

Mankind grows through struggle. It learns, it breathes, and it becomes more beautiful the more it has to fight for its existence. Those who have not forgotten understand.

In the past, God tested those children with struggles of all kinds. When they survived, that was their pride. That was their own glory.

Now...

...He has changed. In your world, perhaps He is the same. In mine... everything is out of balance. Including Him.

I only know God through science, which is to say I can't believe in anything or anyone with that much influence...not blindly.

If He exists or if He doesn't I don't know...if belief keeps Him alive...it could be.

I can only think of God existing in my own heart and there He is not bias.

I don't know anything about the universal God, but I'd like to understand if it's not something you're loathe to speak about from time to time.

"So long as the Lord does not live in you, all beings hold darkness in their hearts". I suppose that sentiment goes true in that regard.

Blind adoration and following is a fool's errand; that much is true. Humans have lost their connection to nature, and to the supernatural. This is the cause of most demonic outbreaks.

Without belief, demons too shall falter and die.

And their rage against the humans can be fierce.

Your God may be different. Or He may even be gone. But if you wish, I will speak of mine to you.

So the Wicca have got it right, you think? [He's making an attempt at humor here]

It is interesting that belief can be a very powerful thing...though I suppose our beliefs can bring us together and tear us apart so I'm not surprise that it's enough to cause the endurance of Gods and Demons.

Like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I wouldn't mind if you spoke of Him, it seems to be a topic you're passionate about. Naturally I would be interested.

Perhaps the Wicca understand it better than most. [A light chuckle.]

But very few humans truly understand the power they have.

Is it so surprising for me to be passionate about it? He is my greatest opponent, after all. I know Him better than He knows himself now.

This world is mine. Humans are mine. Regardless of His desires now, I have chosen to take their protection in hand.

No, it's not surprising, it's just that if it's something you're passionate about then it's a way for me to know you.

Hm...some might think that's greedy...but you're kind...

Do you think so?

Some might find that a rather confusing statement to utter to the lord of the Netherworld.

In a small way, perhaps.

It might also be confusing that the lord of Neatherworld would also choose to protect, even though he might also have his own ambitions, is this not a kindness? If God is incapable.

I may not love them, but I will not abandon them. That is the choice that I made.

...do not be mistaken. If mankind leads itself to destruction, it will be their own fault. But until that time, I will ensure their survival.

Ah...so if you do not love them why would you make that choice, to ensure their survival? Is it some form of resistance?

Because they belong to me.

And because-

-they are humans.

That is all I need.

Humanity is remarkable. Even among demons, humans are thought of with wonder and hatred, with curiosity and delight. There is naught more contradictory than they. They are but children compared to us, yet create things we could never imagine. They love, and breathe and change and hate.

They go from creation to destruction, from bringing joy to causing pain... and yet, they are wonderful.

What humanity needs is not to be purged, not to be yanked around on a chain. They simply need to remember the joy of life. The spirit of freedom. Birth, and death. Creation and destruction. To cast off the shackles they have placed upon their own souls.

It is not resistance any more than love. It is simply my desire to see them flourish alongside our kind.

Ah? I guess so...you'll pardon me if I'm forward, I like your passion, but I am also someone who has an academic interest in what makes anyone tick.

Sometimes I wonder if it's not a vicarious thing.

To tell the truth there is a debate here on Eden as to whether or not Earthians should live or be allowed to die.

That's why I'm asking.

Is that truly your decision to make?

To take charge over the existence of another race is a difficult decision. Whether or not you agree with them, you have your own place to live. You have no reason to control the Earth. You should look to solving your own problems before those of others.

If this is on an academic level, however... then I ask you this.

Do human lives have worth in your eyes?

It used to be, but with my position gone it is no longer in my hands. I didn't like nor did I dislike the Earthians...but I didn't want to fight the Earth either because it's what Lucifel wanted. That's why I took charge in the first place...it's not really my passion since I belong in the field of science.

Still...there is fear that humans could expand to destroy our own delicate existence because they are perfectly capable of destroying one another. There is also jealousy over their ability to breed and prosper even under difficult circumstances.

Do I feel human lives have worth? This is my opinion, then...

Well to me there is nothing more beautiful than love. We on Eden have that capacity, but we are unable to express it freely to just anyone. The fact that humans do...and the fact that it can take on many wondrous and unexpected forms...it gives them worth in my eyes.

Hm... I see.

It is that ability that interests me also.

Then, rather than destroying them, remove their ability to access Eden. Confine them to their own land.

If you are set on the path of destruction, then that too is freedom; it is the struggle for life that creates true beauty. Let it be decided by whichever is stronger.

Ah...well the thing is we are of two minds here on Eden so we've created a system Pluses and Minuses.

Confining might not be so simple, but Earth does have their own Black Angels so a survival of the fittest type deal might be what happens if Eden decides it ever wants to attack the Earth again.

It may be the only option. But if you have a way to travel from Eden to Earth, why not ensure you have somewhere to go if it turns sour?

I guess it's because Eden is our home...as for me my own choices are limited, I go where the Metatron takes me.

You could always ask someone here to intercede.

Could that happen? Most of the members come from different worlds and I know no one from my own here who could be of help to me.

Some people here have the natural ability to travel between worlds. Some others use technology. It would not be hard to find your world.

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Oh man, I am so sorry for this.

Lol no worries, Michael wants to understand Lucifer's POV

XDD

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